A Q. and A. on the Cause of Historical Decline

Q. I have been wanting to ask you a question about the long history of philosophy. Mainly my question is about the loss of the transcendental dimension in modernity, and more specifically, the loss of the transcendental in philosophy. This question is taken up by some traditionalists, but I am not satisfied with their approach; I think they ask good questions but I don't find their responses well thought out. Heidegger is famous for his view that early philosophy was the discovery of fundamental being and that the history of philosophy is a long, slow clouding of this discovery, culminating in nihilism of the 20th century. I am not a fan of Heidegger; I believe he is hugely overrated. I only bring up his view because it has some traction today among those who take issue with modernity. My own tendency is to view the loss of the transcendental in modernity as part of a natural process, a cyclic process. We are in the winter season of a cultural cycle where it is very difficult to do anything outside of material concerns. You have mentioned that modernity is actually the darkest period of recorded human history, and I think that's true; but I'm wondering if you have any thoughts about how that has come about? Do you see it as a result of specifically human activity? or perhaps more along a natural cycle of awareness and understanding, like the seasonal nature I suggested. I tend to think that human beings like to think that they are in charge of long-term cultural trends, but I doubt that this is true.

 A. It is often necessary to speak in historical terms and to have knowledge of history in dealing with getting along in our present sense world and relative reality in this birth until we can get free, and I certainly do think that this is the darkest time in at least the last 25 or 30 centuries, as you mention, but ultimately I don't think history, like everything in becoming, has any true reality. All at this lowest level of individuated sensate existence in space-time is simply the experience of fallen souls according to their karma as mediated through the Soul of the All. If you think about it, all that we call history is just inference based on sense data--written/verbal and material records, etc.--that has no ultimate reality and is just sense fields manifesting according to our karma and that of others in this our present particular relative reality system. True, real, and certain knowledge is only of Nous, the real beings, and the One/Good, and how to approach them ascetically and contemplatively through their relation to this world and our condition. Ultimately, the cause of the dark condition of modernity and the loss of the transcendental in culture and thought is just the heavy deluded poor karma of most of the souls inhabiting it. This is the real reason, however useful it may be at times to consider the 'historical' manner in which these times seem to have come about, such as you have researched so thoroughly and insightfully and we have discussed. Right now, so to speak, souls with different karma may be experiencing different relative reality systems where there is a more traditional appreciation and understanding of the transcendent and renunciation. In terms of the askesis, I think there is value in just viewing the cause in terms of individual karma this way--cf., the method of referring all causation to participation in the Forms and lack thereof in the last logos in the Phaedo. I don't really find it meaningful to think either in terms of a linear or human caused historical process or the cyclic view of the different Yugas or the like or any other overall or overarching scheme of history. I think it is more meaningful just to think of relative circumstances and realities in terms of the individual soul's movement towards or away from the Good over countless births and lifetimes. This leaves us in the peculiar position of having such good karma to be wholly concerned with the Transcendent and the askesis, but with such strange karma as to be doing it in this most dark and unsupportive and deluded environment, surrounded mostly just by souls with very poor deluded karma! No doubt, though, there is a reason for it in terms of our own karma, and is presumably in the long term for the best, or at least necessary.